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	<title>Comments on: PC Help</title>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.thedigeratipeninsula.org.uk/archive/2005/04/26/pc-help/comment-page-1/#comment-294</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what you mean, the only people I know who use onboard graphics are the corporate clients because they&#039;re only showing office stuff and so don&#039;t need something that&#039;ll render high quality 3D so prefer it all in one neat bundle.

Last I heard AGP was still top dog, but I admit I haven&#039;t bought a graphics card in a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what you mean, the only people I know who use onboard graphics are the corporate clients because they&#8217;re only showing office stuff and so don&#8217;t need something that&#8217;ll render high quality 3D so prefer it all in one neat bundle.</p>
<p>Last I heard AGP was still top dog, but I admit I haven&#8217;t bought a graphics card in a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.thedigeratipeninsula.org.uk/archive/2005/04/26/pc-help/comment-page-1/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 21:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I thought (looking back now, you didn&#039;t) you said he was going to build it himself. Scratch that then.

I think that the cheap sound cards use the CPU anyway, like WinModems do/did. Please correct me if I&#039;m wrong, I can&#039;t find the (or any) resource to state the same thing right now.

I never have used the on board graphics; but they&#039;re almost standard now, for the Marketing Department to have one more &quot;feature&quot; to throw at us consumers, and sucker the uninitiated into thinking they&#039;re saving money.

I never intended anyone to actually &lt;em&gt;use&lt;/em&gt; the on board graphics, I avoid it like the plague, I simply thought it deserved mentioning.

Just another note, isn&#039;t AGP a thing of the past now? I thought everything was becoming PCI-Express (for graphics) or regular ol&#039; PCI (for everything else).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I thought (looking back now, you didn&#8217;t) you said he was going to build it himself. Scratch that then.</p>
<p>I think that the cheap sound cards use the CPU anyway, like WinModems do/did. Please correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, I can&#8217;t find the (or any) resource to state the same thing right now.</p>
<p>I never have used the on board graphics; but they&#8217;re almost standard now, for the Marketing Department to have one more &#8220;feature&#8221; to throw at us consumers, and sucker the uninitiated into thinking they&#8217;re saving money.</p>
<p>I never intended anyone to actually <em>use</em> the on board graphics, I avoid it like the plague, I simply thought it deserved mentioning.</p>
<p>Just another note, isn&#8217;t AGP a thing of the past now? I thought everything was becoming PCI-Express (for graphics) or regular ol&#8217; PCI (for everything else).</p>
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		<title>By: lee</title>
		<link>http://www.thedigeratipeninsula.org.uk/archive/2005/04/26/pc-help/comment-page-1/#comment-291</link>
		<dc:creator>lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2005 05:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair points all.

Onboard components do simplify the buying process.  And it there&#039;s less problems from conflicts and confusion over which port you should plug your headphones in.

Unfortunately, onboard cards steal resources from the CPU, usually some RAM (especially in the case of graphics cards) and don&#039;t provide any flexibility.  I&#039;d be prepared to go with onboard sound and network, to start at least, but never onboard graphics.  And considering you can pick up a sound or network card for about £10, it&#039;s not exactly saving you the earth.

Also, let&#039;s not forget that most pre-built machines come with the cheapest components they can find.  So getting a decent motherboard with decent components may be unlikely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair points all.</p>
<p>Onboard components do simplify the buying process.  And it there&#8217;s less problems from conflicts and confusion over which port you should plug your headphones in.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, onboard cards steal resources from the CPU, usually some RAM (especially in the case of graphics cards) and don&#8217;t provide any flexibility.  I&#8217;d be prepared to go with onboard sound and network, to start at least, but never onboard graphics.  And considering you can pick up a sound or network card for about £10, it&#8217;s not exactly saving you the earth.</p>
<p>Also, let&#8217;s not forget that most pre-built machines come with the cheapest components they can find.  So getting a decent motherboard with decent components may be unlikely.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.thedigeratipeninsula.org.uk/archive/2005/04/26/pc-help/comment-page-1/#comment-290</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On board sound isn&#039;t that bad anymore, some motherboards, like an Asus can out-perform some stand-alone sound cards, Creative Labs (and the like) will probably out-perform on board chips for a long time, if not forever. It&#039;s a good way to save money, and hassle.

Purists, and audiophiles, are the ones who can usually tell the difference, not beginners.

On board is simplification, get the easy stuff, Ethernet, Sound, possibly Graphics (depending on the computer&#039;s use) can greately simplify the end-users...well, use.

Just my two cents...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On board sound isn&#8217;t that bad anymore, some motherboards, like an Asus can out-perform some stand-alone sound cards, Creative Labs (and the like) will probably out-perform on board chips for a long time, if not forever. It&#8217;s a good way to save money, and hassle.</p>
<p>Purists, and audiophiles, are the ones who can usually tell the difference, not beginners.</p>
<p>On board is simplification, get the easy stuff, Ethernet, Sound, possibly Graphics (depending on the computer&#8217;s use) can greately simplify the end-users&#8230;well, use.</p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8230;</p>
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